The definition of a virus is 'infective', why confuse everyone by calling these alleged cell made structures viruses? He's saying infective agents are not infective.
I agree, the use of the word virus is problematic as its association with contagion is quite strong.
On the other hand, there is a case for restoring an earlier meaning of the word 'virus' which was 'poison'. This is consistent with the view that the body creates viruses to eliminate poisons from the body and therefore viruses are not contagious.
Well, the term virus is a well known term, but misunderstood as a poison, which is now reflected in modern day dictionaries as a contagion. Unfortunately, as a result, taken advantage of by modern medicine/big pharma to keep people in fear of bacteria/viruses as attackers of our bodies instead of part of our immune system, thus keeping folks as lab rats/guinea pigs and in continued $ickne$$ and di$eaSe and premature death…. With more information, positive information of how our bodies are wonderfully created, the definition could change!
Yes, the association with contagion is muddying the waters. Viruses could be garbage bags for cells, to cart away toxins that may do damage if not contained. So this would make the virus a container of poison/toxin, not the poison itself. Perhaps the usage of the words will change if the narrative collapses. Hopefully sooner than later.
In agreement with you. It seems to be a case of semantics or such. The word has been used for its associated pejorative/scary connotations. Of course that way anything
they come up with, for whatever reasons including
nefarious ones, can be given the moniker that people are familiar with and "understand". How bloody clever.
I also believe what's called viruses are part of the mechanism our body employs to get rid of toxins and such
as residues/byproducts/waste resulting from the body
Right, viruses are not causative but are a result of what you have taken in, meds/drugs/ETOH/vaccines/crap food/air pollution, etc. to aid in the detoxification of the garbage in...
Yep...many have been brainwashed via germ theory that there is a pill or a vaccine for everything that ails one, instead of taking responsibility for your health..
There is a reference also to venom from the Sanskrit. hmmm.
virus (n.)
late 14c., "poisonous substance" (a sense now archaic), from Latin virus "poison, sap of plants, slimy liquid, a potent juice," from Proto-Italic *weis-o-(s-) "poison," which is probably from a PIE root *ueis-, perhaps originally meaning "to melt away, to flow," used of foul or malodorous fluids, but with specialization in some languages to "poisonous fluid" (source also of Sanskrit visam "venom, poison," visah "poisonous;" Avestan vish- "poison;" Latin viscum "sticky substance, birdlime;" Greek ios "poison," ixos "mistletoe, birdlime;" Old Church Slavonic višnja "cherry;" Old Irish fi "poison;" Welsh gwy "poison").
The meaning "agent that causes infectious disease" emerged by 1790s gradually out of the earlier use in reference to venereal disease (by 1728); the modern scientific use dates to the 1880s. The computer sense is from 1972.
VIRUS (among Physicians) a kind of watery stinking Matter, which issues out of Ulcers, being endued with eating and malignant Qualities. [Bailey's dictionary, 1770]
The lab studies do not resemble the real world. They took their toxic paste and rubbed it on the tobacco leaves. In the animal studies they inject things and/or squirt things up their nose. That doesn't prove transmission of a contagious disease, it is just lab theatrics and animal abuse.
Yep. I totally agree and I think scientific research ( I used to work in cancer research (aka drug development), at what's now the Crick, on mouse models of disease - a complete waste of time in terms of saving any human lives, and I became anti-vivisection whilst working there) is pretty much all animal abuse. You cannot prevent suffering by causing it. Our human hubris is unbelievable.
In an earlier post of mine on Rudolf Steiner, I noted that he suggests that abuse of other beings will be repaid in kind and that the pandemic is at least partially due to the suffering being turned back upon us.
Interesting. I think there is something in this. I wrote a post on twitter a few months ago about how we are so getting a taste of our own medicine in that we're now being treated how we treat other animals (the elites think we are a different species to them) and we're finding out what it's like to be tested on, imprisoned, controlled and treated like a commodity with no feelings. Repaid in kind is a much better, more succinct way of putting it.
We have been stamping on billions of other animal's faces for many, many years and had "the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless." I won't finish the quote it's too depressing.
And that doesn't have to be our future. We can wake up, take responsibility, live with compassion and forgiveness!
love it- I love that gothic, alchemy, potions, poisoned apples, witches cauldron, fetid, slimy, snotty, green biliousness! birdlime, not so keen on, had to look that up- a sticky substance spread on twigs to trap small birds-gross. Generally virus/poison seems to mean a parasitic, destructive thing, not a method to get rid of toxins.
They don't want to change their paradigm yet. As long as they maintain an attachment to the paradigm they are in, logic won't usually do much as they have to be ready for a shift. It often requires giving up quite a lot of what they are comfortable with and start breaking new ground. That takes energy and a lot of people just are not ready for that kind of shift.
It is getting to the point of life and death for some, perhaps for many if quackcination continues. I see it as a choice between unhealthy (if not deadly) dependence or taking responsibility for one's one well being. Humans have to grow up in this respect, some (many?) are not prepared to do that.
Hiya,
The definition of a virus is 'infective', why confuse everyone by calling these alleged cell made structures viruses? He's saying infective agents are not infective.
Jo
I agree, the use of the word virus is problematic as its association with contagion is quite strong.
On the other hand, there is a case for restoring an earlier meaning of the word 'virus' which was 'poison'. This is consistent with the view that the body creates viruses to eliminate poisons from the body and therefore viruses are not contagious.
Well, the term virus is a well known term, but misunderstood as a poison, which is now reflected in modern day dictionaries as a contagion. Unfortunately, as a result, taken advantage of by modern medicine/big pharma to keep people in fear of bacteria/viruses as attackers of our bodies instead of part of our immune system, thus keeping folks as lab rats/guinea pigs and in continued $ickne$$ and di$eaSe and premature death…. With more information, positive information of how our bodies are wonderfully created, the definition could change!
Yes, the association with contagion is muddying the waters. Viruses could be garbage bags for cells, to cart away toxins that may do damage if not contained. So this would make the virus a container of poison/toxin, not the poison itself. Perhaps the usage of the words will change if the narrative collapses. Hopefully sooner than later.
In agreement with you. It seems to be a case of semantics or such. The word has been used for its associated pejorative/scary connotations. Of course that way anything
they come up with, for whatever reasons including
nefarious ones, can be given the moniker that people are familiar with and "understand". How bloody clever.
I also believe what's called viruses are part of the mechanism our body employs to get rid of toxins and such
as residues/byproducts/waste resulting from the body
natural functioning.
Right, viruses are not causative but are a result of what you have taken in, meds/drugs/ETOH/vaccines/crap food/air pollution, etc. to aid in the detoxification of the garbage in...
Yep...many have been brainwashed via germ theory that there is a pill or a vaccine for everything that ails one, instead of taking responsibility for your health..
Immune system is the whole of your body, your lymphatics, your bacteria and viruses, etc. all working together.
This is interesting: https://www.etymonline.com/word/virus
There is a reference also to venom from the Sanskrit. hmmm.
virus (n.)
late 14c., "poisonous substance" (a sense now archaic), from Latin virus "poison, sap of plants, slimy liquid, a potent juice," from Proto-Italic *weis-o-(s-) "poison," which is probably from a PIE root *ueis-, perhaps originally meaning "to melt away, to flow," used of foul or malodorous fluids, but with specialization in some languages to "poisonous fluid" (source also of Sanskrit visam "venom, poison," visah "poisonous;" Avestan vish- "poison;" Latin viscum "sticky substance, birdlime;" Greek ios "poison," ixos "mistletoe, birdlime;" Old Church Slavonic višnja "cherry;" Old Irish fi "poison;" Welsh gwy "poison").
The meaning "agent that causes infectious disease" emerged by 1790s gradually out of the earlier use in reference to venereal disease (by 1728); the modern scientific use dates to the 1880s. The computer sense is from 1972.
VIRUS (among Physicians) a kind of watery stinking Matter, which issues out of Ulcers, being endued with eating and malignant Qualities. [Bailey's dictionary, 1770]
the virus like particles produced by for example tobacco mosaic 'disease' (malnutrition) very possibly part of the process of recovery https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/tobacco-mosaic-virus-the-beginning-and-end-of-virology:8
The lab studies do not resemble the real world. They took their toxic paste and rubbed it on the tobacco leaves. In the animal studies they inject things and/or squirt things up their nose. That doesn't prove transmission of a contagious disease, it is just lab theatrics and animal abuse.
Yep. I totally agree and I think scientific research ( I used to work in cancer research (aka drug development), at what's now the Crick, on mouse models of disease - a complete waste of time in terms of saving any human lives, and I became anti-vivisection whilst working there) is pretty much all animal abuse. You cannot prevent suffering by causing it. Our human hubris is unbelievable.
In an earlier post of mine on Rudolf Steiner, I noted that he suggests that abuse of other beings will be repaid in kind and that the pandemic is at least partially due to the suffering being turned back upon us.
Interesting. I think there is something in this. I wrote a post on twitter a few months ago about how we are so getting a taste of our own medicine in that we're now being treated how we treat other animals (the elites think we are a different species to them) and we're finding out what it's like to be tested on, imprisoned, controlled and treated like a commodity with no feelings. Repaid in kind is a much better, more succinct way of putting it.
We have been stamping on billions of other animal's faces for many, many years and had "the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless." I won't finish the quote it's too depressing.
And that doesn't have to be our future. We can wake up, take responsibility, live with compassion and forgiveness!
Jo
love it- I love that gothic, alchemy, potions, poisoned apples, witches cauldron, fetid, slimy, snotty, green biliousness! birdlime, not so keen on, had to look that up- a sticky substance spread on twigs to trap small birds-gross. Generally virus/poison seems to mean a parasitic, destructive thing, not a method to get rid of toxins.
They don't want to change their paradigm yet. As long as they maintain an attachment to the paradigm they are in, logic won't usually do much as they have to be ready for a shift. It often requires giving up quite a lot of what they are comfortable with and start breaking new ground. That takes energy and a lot of people just are not ready for that kind of shift.
It is getting to the point of life and death for some, perhaps for many if quackcination continues. I see it as a choice between unhealthy (if not deadly) dependence or taking responsibility for one's one well being. Humans have to grow up in this respect, some (many?) are not prepared to do that.
Would something like the Strauss heart drops be of any help?