The Virus Debate
The Virus Debate
Do Viruses Exist and If So, Do They Cause Disease or Are They the Result of It?
“Unless we put medical freedom in the constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize itself into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others which will constitute the Bastille of medical science.”
~ Dr. Benjamin Rush, a signer of the Declaration of Independence
Even if this quote is misattributed, it nonetheless rings true.
My biggest concern is that the virus narrative will keep humanity in bondage by those who say they will keep us safe, and instead are ruining our lives.
Is there any evidence that transmissible pathogenic viruses exist? This is a critical question given the overwhelming intrusion of authorities into our lives under the guise of a pandemic.
I am intrigued by the claims of several credentialed folks who claim that SARS-COV2 has not been proven to exist. Some go further and claim that no virus anywhere, anytime has been proven to exist. This article is intended to be my journey in that debate.
I have been aware of the controversy around vaccination quackcination for a long time, but it has become more of an issue since governments around the world have started mandating them. Is this a health issue, a political issue, an economic issue, a control issue, or all of the above?
I was aware of terrain theory, and minimizing the impact of viruses in a healthy terrain, but don’t recall seeing anyone positing that viruses don’t exist until recently. I had encountered the concept that SARS-COV2 didn’t exist, but didn’t extend that to all viruses.
Even if it can be shown that the entire genome of SARS-COV2 has been identified in a sick human (to my knowledge it has not) and it were then placed in a healthy person and no illness resulted, what could we then conclude? That the virus only makes vulnerable people sick? This would validate terrain theory. I have not seen such a study, but will keep watching for one.
Such a study would not be favorable to the quackcine manufacturers nor to those who follow the virus/quackcine narrative, so I won't hold my breath. If I am wrong in terms of my current views I will publicly admit it. Will they do the same?
Two of the main figures that I first noticed regarding this issue are Dr. Andrew Kaufman and Dr. Tom Cowan. There are now many others, one list of which I found in the process of reading Virus Mania. One of the authors, Torsten Engelbrecht has a list on his website which you can find here: website of Torsten Engelbrecht and scroll down. The list includes over four dozen doctors, researchers and writers.
A good article to start with is here:
Another starting point is this page on Dr. Kaufman’s website: Statement On Virus Isolation (SOVI) which is an important topic in this debate. How can we carry the argument any further if a virus cannot be isolated?
Dr. Cowan, Dr. Kaufman and others have said that they will accept that viruses exist, but after reading numerous papers, have not yet found one that proves that viruses exist. They claim that the process is flawed due to the addition of drugs and other tissues to the samples. How can one be sure they have isolated a particle by adding other substances?
The claim is that because viruses need the cellular machinery to replicate, that cells must be added to culture the virus. If the virus is replicating inside an infected person and they can cough or sneeze and spread billions of viral particles, why can’t they be captured, purified and isolated? Isn’t that what is infecting other people?
What I expect from virology:
Capture alleged viral particles from the body fluids of a supposed sick person
Isolate / purify those particles (Virologists have differing definitions for terms we may think have plain meanings). See this page: Understanding virus isolates, variants, and strains - virology blog
Sequence the genome (apparently this is time consuming and expensive) and verify that the same particles can be found and sequenced from another sick person.
Expose another person (Dr. Tom Cowan has volunteered) to this genetic sequence and see if he gets sick.
One possible outcome is that Dr. Cowan’s immune system may encounter this genetic fragment and escort it out of the body or dismantle it.
These are generally known as Koch’s Postulates. They can be succinctly summarized as: Find, Isolate, Introduce, Isolate.
Koch’s Postulates from Wikipedia:
The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.
The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.
The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.
One problem may be with #1. What if some fragments are found in both healthy and ill people as is the case with AIDS? We then have a failure at the first postulate before even considering the others. If the fragment is present in both healthy and sick people, is there another cause altogether, or is the fragment only one factor?
Questions
All kinds of genetic material is floating around, we eat, drink and breathe it everyday. Why are some fragments pathogenic?
Why does the cell allow these fragments in? Once they are in, why does the cell start replicating this fragment?
When Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test went looking for a reference paper that proved that HIV was the probable cause of AIDS, he could not find one - not even when he asked Dr. Luc Montagnier who was given the Nobel Prize for the discovery of HIV. See this video in which Dr. Mullis explains:
Regarding PCR: COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless
COVID-19 has what is termed an in silico genome, i.e. in the computer. The tests are testing for a few genes of which no one has proved where they came from. There has not been one whole viral particle taken from a sick individual that matches the full sequence we are told is SARS-COV2. Instead, they find bits of hoof, tail and horn and declare that unicorns exist, we proved it in the lab. If you have a reference to a fully intact viral particle taken from a sick individual that has been sequenced to match what has been declared to be the SARS-COV2 virus, please let me know. There are dozens of professionals who would also like to see the proof.
Why does virology invert the meaning of the word isolation? As Kaufman and others point out, how can adding other genetic material be regarded as isolating the genetic material you are looking to identify?
Viruses are said to be fragments of genetic information. We inhale and swallow large amounts of genetic information that is floating in the air and in our food and drink on a continuous basis. Why do some fragments cause problems while others don’t?
We are told that the genome for a virus could be 28,000 base pairs. Does our immune system have the capacity to check all of those or does it just need to identify enough of it to determine it is not to stay intact / in the body?
If viruses don’t make people sick, what does? David Parker and Dawn Lester have an answer: What Really Makes You Ill? Briefly, they assert that it is largely due to toxins, of which the quackccines (my term, not theirs) are one
Websites
Sites that call the germ theory and viruses into question:
ViroLIEgy – Exposing the lies of Germ Theory and virology using their own sources.
As If Thinking Matters - Dr. Randy Wysong
Viruses are not Contagious - the author of this site asserts that viruses do exist, but they are not contagious
The Perth Group - The HIV/AIDS Debate - The view of The Perth Group is that the HIV/AIDS experts have not proven the existence of a unique, exogenously acquired retrovirus, HIV.
Virus Myth - this site looks mostly at HIV/AIDS. The rebranded site is here: https://www.rethinkingaids.com/
The Infectious Myth: (unfortunately this site is no longer online, but the podcasts are still available) David Crowe had a podcast which is now found on PodBean or Backtracks.fm (the link to the podcast on his website no longer works) of the same name in which he discussed this issue. Sadly, David is no longer with us, but his website is still available. There are several good resources on his site.
Dr. Sam Bailey and Dr. Mark Bailey have posted several articles on this issue. Here is one: https://drsambailey.com/covid-19/why-nobody-can-find-a-virus/
Here is a counter to that viewpoint: sam bailey on isolating viruses, and why she is wrong
A Cautionary Tale - They Thought it was a Virus
It turns out that a medication was to blame
1960s Japan; The Bizarre SMON Epidemic - Fewer than five percent of those diagnosed died, but there were cases. The craziest thing was how devastatingly simple was the cure.
They needed to stop treating the patients.
The SMON incident remains one of if not the most bizarre epidemics in history, a cautionary tale for modern clinicians, but one many don’t know.
Other Viewpoints
Zach Bush and the Virome.
Interview with Charles Eisenstein Dr. Zach Bush: Life is a Community (E49). While Zach does not deny the existence of viruses, he says that we live in what is termed a microbiome as well as a virome and that this genetic information is communication between living beings which helps drive evolution forward.
Transcript of Zac Bush on The Highwire
Rudolf Steiner’s spiritual perspective on viruses:
Coronavirus — Meeting Covid-19 head-on with Anthroposophy In this article it is suggested that the origin of Covid-19 is likely due to the debasing of the general astral field of the area (and many of the inhabitants themselves) due to suffering animals. Massive factory farming in China has been degrading the quality of life for animals for a while now. Illness in the astral often manifests in the physical.
For more on Steiner’s views, see my post here
German New Medicine
GNM posits that the psyche plays a significant role in disease:
The theory that certain “diseases” are caused by “pathogenic microbes” is one of the most persistent doctrines of modern medicine. This general conception is largely attributable to the fact that microbes are present at the site of a “diseased” organ. And since the activity of microbes is accompanied by swelling, fever, inflammation, pus, discharge, and pain, microbes are believed to be the cause of “infectious diseases”. Similar to the idea that an “abnormal” growth of cancer cells leads to the development of a “malignant” tumor, it is wrongly assumed that microbes growing beyond their normal ranges (see immune system theory) results in virulent “infections”.
Microbes don’t cause diseases but play instead a vital role during the healing phase.
and regarding transmissibility:
Diseases are not contagious!
Based on the two-phase pattern of every SBS (Second Biological Law), “infections” cannot be transmitted to another person since the symptoms (discharge, inflammation, fever) are already healing symptoms.
Regarding the immune system:
White blood cells such as leucocytes and lymphocytes support the microbial work. Governed by images of a biological warfare raging within the human organism, conventional medicine interprets a rise in white blood cells (“killer cells”) as an “immune response” aimed at “attacking” and “fighting the infection”. In light of the Fourth Biological Law, the academic construct of an “immune system”, envisioned as a “defense system” against microbes (and cancer cells), becomes entirely meaningless; in fact, the term “infection” itself becomes obsolete. The invention of "autoimmune diseases", in which the immune system apparently attacks the body's own tissue, shows how a scientific culture can become blinded by its own beliefs.
Learn more about German New Medicine here: The Five Biological Laws of the New Medicine
Online posts / discussions
Has the virus been isolated - This is a post by Steve Kirsch. A lengthy discussion follows which will give you numerous points from both sides.
Steve then followed up with this post Does anyone want to debate "Does the virus exist?" which was also very busy in the comment section
Books
Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht / Claus Köhnlein, MD / Dr. Samantha Bailey, MD / Dr. Stefano Scoglio
The Contagion Myth by Sally Fallon and Tom Cowan
Videos
There is a growing volume of videos out there so no list can be comprehensive without overwhelming anyone.
What I Think COVID-19 Really Is - This is an early video by Dr. Andy Kaufman in which he questions the conclusion that a new virus has emerged. He discusses the procedure for proving a virus was present, the PCR test and his view on exosomes.
My Discussion with Stefan Lanka about Virology - Dr. Tom Cowan has an hour-long discussion with German biologist and virologist Stefan Lanka. Stefan spoke about the history of virology, helped us to understand the many wrong turns virologists have taken over the years, and updated us on his ground-breaking study that will disprove the basic tenets of virology.
The Third and Final Pillar of Virology: The Genome - Webinar From Friday, January 28, 2022 - Dr. Tom Cowan
Series: The Fraudulent Science of Modern Virology:
Medical Students Question Dr. Kaufman about COVID and Virology
Episode 44: Dr. Mark Bailey - Dismantling Germ Theory
Virology On Trial Series:
Part 1: https://www.bitchute.com/video/a5ANTtqFaLTs/
Part 2: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ngvvq819u8yG/
Part 3: https://www.bitchute.com/video/QZ1R488qwjHp/
Part 4: https://www.bitchute.com/video/eoAgmCbIcXFx/
Part 5: https://www.bitchute.com/video/59dvZQtpNhvw/
Part 6: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RckOAckiSmTG/
Telegram Channels
Messages from Dr. Tom Cowan's team
Dr. Sam Bailey M.D. - Dr Samantha Bailey is a medically trained doctor. Dr Bailey is co-author of the book "Virus Mania."
ViroLIEgy - Shining a light on the Germ Theory/Virology scam in order to wake people up to the indoctrination we've been exposed to since birth.
Humanley - Helping people heal themselves. Good health is a journey not a destination. Humanley challenges the status quo of all things health and wellness.
Terrain Theory - Discussing and understanding terrain theory and how the body truly works
Podcasts
For the Love of Truth: Ep. 246 | Steve Falconer | The multi trillion dollar germ theory and virus fraud February 19, 2022 • 117 min.
Also found here: Player FM
In this episode a deep look into the fraud of virology and germ theory that supports a multi trillion dollar industry that creates havoc in peoples lives and causes untold suffering and death and is being used to usher in the 4th industrial revolution, Agendas 2021 and 2030.
Sites that support virus theory and/or debunk those who seek proof of a virus:
The Corona Conspiracy by Frank Visser
These sites propose that the SARS-COV2 virus exists and has been isolated:
https://sophiasnippets.wordpress.com/2021/12/29/yes-dolores-viruses-are-real/
https://virologydownunder.com/sigh-yes-the-covid-virus-is-real/
The following site proposes that the virus has been show to cause disease:
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-challenge-study-preliminary-results
I will guess that viruses do exist
That is after reading
Geert vanden bossche
Did I finally spell his name correctly?
Check his substack to find his 45 page paper
Might be more important than the RFKjr but Geert is biomedical chemical and the real sat-anthony Fauci is legal perspective and both mandatory reads